[2] The Dobermann has a long muzzle. Absolutely I couldnt agree with you more on this Breed for the right reasons not just for the rare colors Dobermans are an exceptional breed when breed right and responsible some breeders breed for the wrong reasons just to get that rare coloring and that couldnt be more wrong and they end up with health conditions research before breeding or as a consumer before you buy . The skin is Red/pink not the eyes. The white doberman is obedient and beautiful also good with my children. When we took the bandage off to dress the wound again, it was gone! Exercise responsibility instead. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. Dobies do demand your attention and companionship, but you cant find a more loyal dog anywhere. He has had no health problems very easy trained. Article literally just said breeding white ones is inhumane. Look at what we did to the. An animal can have albino skin & hair, but still have normal eye color; this is called partial albinism. So glad you came along. I guess its a yanky thing. [2], After Dobermann's death in 1894, the Germans named the breed Dobermann-pinscher in his honor, but a half century later dropped the word 'pinscher' on the grounds that this German word for 'terrier' was no longer appropriate. She just wanted to sniff noses and play. Exactly!! Love my buddy to death so thanks for any info. LOL We have plenty of Dogs and its always time for someones check up or booster shots. Like every Dobe, hes happiest when with his family (me, my wife, our son, daughter and granddaughter). Her daughter has taken over the kennel and is just as driven to support the White Dobermans and the Doberman Pinscher, as a breed, in whole. My second oldest Cream/white is going on 11. To the guy that said the bull mastiff came about by interbreeding other bull mastiffs you are an idiot. They are NOT a dog you can put out in the backyard and ignore. I went to the store and bought an at home UTI kit and tested her myself, I called the vet and after urine analysis it was confirmed. During spaying the vet discovered a heart murmur in Porsche. I should of googled white dobes b4 i even thought about it but i didnt and now to see what i have read about them i dont know how these breader get away will mating them It sickens me to think that this is so not fair to the bread..and how clueless sarah at the top of this page really is ugh.. go to the AKC home page and read what color eyes albinos have and all the probs they have they can have up to 3 different colors in eye color. None of these 4 dogs, nor the other dozen or so that I briefly met, suffered from Von Willebrands, Wobbles or any other disease, for that matter. fawn. I am not a dog breeder or trainer, nor have I too much experience raising dogs. Two different color genes exist in the Dobermann: one for black (B) and one for color dilution (D). There is some evidence that Doberman Pinschers in North America have a calmer and more even temperament than their European counterparts because of the breeding strategies employed by American breeders. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans. Sadly, after 6 beautiful months with our girl she died in my arms of a stroke. I have a fawn male and a white female, whos previous owner relinquished her to us. It is a mutation and its animal abuse to breed like this because you think its cool . Over the years we have had three Doberman girls. The Doberman pinscher has a short, sleek and shiny coat that is black, dark red, blue or fawn with rust-colored markings on the face, body and tail. The only surgery she has ever had was her spay. That means a very shallow gene pool to start out with. No i dont want a dog that has temper problems but i like the varitiey of colors. [21], The personality of the Doberman Pinscher is known to be unique. dobermann They are not genetic Mutations that should be culled at birth. Third problem: our moZart sufferes from lick granuloma issues and benign lipoma tumors (6) in total! I cannot believe what you just said, NO ONE should EVER breed.. hahahahahahaha.. oh yes and while we are on it , lets make our faithful dogs become extinct .. you foolish person yours has to be the most nonsensical comment I have ever read on a doggie site lolol tut tut tut. the white and the SOLID black are to be avoided. She has never had an issue in health her whole life. She had light brown pigment to her hair, Light pigment to her skin and blue eyes. -Thanks. Whereas the Doberman is primarily meant to work with people. I have previously had 4dobies and one of them was born deformed. I am trying my childhood breed of German Shepards now and find myself comparing them. CASH!! @DJ Yes. Hes the sweetest dog ever! If just to get it away from you and whatever this white thing you have is not visited upon the animal. Thanks, Ok this is crazy! Bad genetics is bad genetics, any animal thats entire blood line can be traced back to a single individual is badly inbreed. Ive had them live to be 15 and some only make it to 4 or 5. Borong the Warlock: won his championship title in three countries, including 230 Best of Breed, 30 Specialty Show "bests," six all-breed Best in Show, and 66 Working Groups. Just curious, I have a 1 year old purebred blue Doberman and he has blue eyes. I hope you found yourself another Doberman love. Five years after Dobermann's death, Otto Goeller, one of the earliest breeders, created the National Doberman Pinscher Club and is considered to have perfected the breed, breeding and refining them in the 1890s. I know white dobermann breeders in France they are on FB, Dobermann blanc de France et Les Diamants de la nuit, Ill never forget them. I suppose you hold your beliefs deeply. She is beautiful and such a wonderful loving dog! Years, Milo is 4 and not a day goes by that I dont think of Cleo! Also we treat infections with MESOSILVER. In a study published in 2008, aggression was divided into four categories: aggression directed at strangers, owner, strange dogs, and rivalry with other household dogs. i have a dobe,her father is black and his mother is red.how did my dobe becomes golden brown?i mean pure golden brown.i searched the web but i cant find answersplease someone give ideas about thisthanks!!! Otherwise it is a very serious amputation surgery after that time. She was rehomed due to biting a child in the family. First problem: MoZart lost ALL of his hair/coat from the neck to his hind quarters. I took four semesters in genetic based studies just for shiggles; this stuff is easy to understand if you just READ. You know. If a red dog has one partial albinism gene, it becomes isabella/fawn. ", US Centers for Disease Control: Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998, "Dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM) in Doberman Pinschers genetic, diagnostic, and therapeutic studies", "An update on canine cardiomyopathies is it all in the genes? Its to sad. I find it offensive that they are still so many people who have such passionate feelings on the subject cant even do min. My question is how long ago did you have your dobes skin cancer removed, Im just looking for some possitive info as I cant afford the suggested treatment and we are just going to ride it out as long as we can and hoping for the best. Male.. Males are about 27 or 28 inches tall and weigh about 32 kilograms, while females are an inch or two shorter and weigh about 27 to 29 kilograms. For small dogs with internal infections I would use about 1/4 oz twice a day for 10 days, and up to 1/2 oz twice a day for 10 days. By far, my white girl is the healthiest of all of them, and has the thickest, most beautiful coat of all of them too. He is very smart and attentive. Why us americans have single handedly ruined or waterd down any good dogs they ever touched, do some reading and you will have to agree.. We bring dogs in this country and brred them until they cannot do what it was intended to do we make them all couch potatoes show dogs and change the way they are suposed to look so much they just couldnt to a job even if they wanted to. I realy think breeding 2 whites is where the problem comes in. Back to my story: I was told moZart had increased risk of skin problems and eye problems. Steve, bicolor. I am certainly responsible with dogs and have a lot of experience around them, I was raised with them. If you ever get a chance to see a German Bred Doberman, be sure to take a lot of photos and video, then compare it to any Dobe bred in the United States. But, if you speak with knowledgeable professionals, who hold no bias, you will hear, time after time, after time that the gene that carries the diluted white..DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY CARRY WEAKENED, UNHEALTHY CHARACTERISTICS.This is a fallacy. We are not trying to replace Katie, that would not be possible. We are in our 60s. Okay, I own a beautiful Dob. Its a crap shoot with albinos. just curious. Found a rescue in Enterprise, Alabama that we are currently in touch with. Also when you see a wonderfully behaved dobe in public, ask the owner what breeder its from. They are partial albino and not should be bread. All-black Dobermans are rarely seen but do exist. When I lost her to cancer, I never got another one. Love your dog and I will Love mine! This is so good to hear. You didnt read the authors information well. When we walk in our little town, shes a rock star. Your dobe at 140 lbs is either overweight or oversize. Hi, my name is Calin Scridon and I went to the site to see the material and the comments. Propaganda to scare people from breeding, even owning, a White or Cream Colored Dobe. Below you can see the traditional black and tan Doberman color alongside a red Doberman. Cappy, Kurt and 23 other Dobermanns whose names are inscribed on the memorial, died fighting with the US Marine Corps against Japanese forces on, Bingo von Ellendonk: first Dobermann to score 300 points (perfect score) in. He set out to breed a new type of dog that would exhibit impressive stamina, strength, and intelligence. Study and actually thoroughly read what you find. [43][44], Dobermanns were first bred in the 1880s by Karl Friedrich Louis Dobermann in Apolda, Thuringia, Germany, a tax collector who ran the Apolda dog pound. Lay blame where blame belongs, the people who dont spay, neglect, and/or abuse animals. Do you know which Doberman colors are recognized or restricted by kennel clubs? Protection come automatic , you just have to learn to control it . As a small comment, white is beautiful, in addition to being a soul and as we want them, they accept us as we are. well those are my to bits. He was almost human in his intelligence, and it was a sneaky intelligence to boot. Amen to that. BTW, two large studies on cardio (one in the US and one in Europe) have shown that 60 per cent of dobes suffer from the disorder. If you have an Albino you should love it like you would any dog. Some albino animals do have red or pink eyes because of the lack of pigmentation, what you are seeing the the blood behind their eyes. standing up for the standard is what keeps our dobes as wonderful as they are furthering a trait that isnt considered correct (yeah if you love them its correct) then you might as well cross that awesome dobe with that great confirmation intelligence and temperament with a mutt. The fawn Doberman, (sometimes called Isabella color or cinnamon) is a diluted red. Helene VanHining Rockford IL am listed on AKC web site. Breeding of the fawn and blue is accepted by kennel club although most breeders do not breed these colours or see them as questionable but the so called white is a massive NO NO! The instructor said she used to raise dobies and my boy fit the mold perfectly. If it has two, it bcomes white. I think the main point about white Dobermans is that they should rarely be bred from both white parents. thankyou Anthony, we need to do whats best for the breed in the long term and Im pretty sure Mr. Louis Dobermann did not want the white dobermans entering the lineage. Joan thanks for helping this dobe If I ever have a white it will be a rescue. (I canNOT be out of her sight!) It is a relatively new breed, less than 150 years old. This whole thread disgusts/disappoints me. The point that the author was making was that they are partially albino and albinism comes with health problems. I think it needs to be said that while whites are beautiful, intelligent, loving and just as wonderful as any other color of dobe, the akc doesnt accept them. You clearly mistook the information in the article that they are sick animals and shouldnt be bred. Thankful of it! This poor puppy has already been through so much and I truly believe that is was brought on by improper breeding. meaning dont split hairs over whether or not its albino , or white when making a decision of to breed or not to breed . Personally Im o.k. I have seen black people and babies with rickets (legs bend). You are right, you do have to be a bit careful with White Dobes getting too much sun. So smart and loves attention. Her Mom was white and dad was black/tan. So sad. I have rescued many homeless dogs , but I will always own a doberman too. It should also appear elegant and noble. I know I should have done my research first but I was told that she was gray. She used a Shaklee product called Basic H diluted in water. Our girl Porsche is a love bug. [42] Investigation into the genetic causes of canine DCM may lead to therapeutic and breeding practices to limit its impact. I mean, AKC and purebred dogs are already sick and unhealthy as it is. You are not special. 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